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    <title>Standing in the Fire - Episodes Tagged with “Podcasting”</title>
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    <description>Dive into the fire with Kris, Garrett and John — three owners of Fireside.fm who know what it’s like to stand in the flames of entrepreneurship. In 'Standing in the Fire,' we tackle everything from the latest trends in podcasting to the realities of running a SaaS business. No scripts, no filters — just real talk about what it takes to keep the fire burning. Join us as we explore the triumphs, struggles, and surprising lessons learned along the way.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Real Talk for Founders in the Heat of SaaS Growth.</itunes:subtitle>
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    <itunes:summary>Dive into the fire with Kris, Garrett and John — three owners of Fireside.fm who know what it’s like to stand in the flames of entrepreneurship. In 'Standing in the Fire,' we tackle everything from the latest trends in podcasting to the realities of running a SaaS business. No scripts, no filters — just real talk about what it takes to keep the fire burning. Join us as we explore the triumphs, struggles, and surprising lessons learned along the way.
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  <title>Ship It Fast, Fix It Later - The New SaaS Playbook</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>From a coworking space without water to shipping a feature before the customer expected it, this episode is a real look at what entrepreneurship actually feels like week to week.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>What happens when the coffee runs out, and everything else goes sideways too?
Kris and John are back with a new episode format built around three segments: what's been hard, what's been inspiring, and what's been shipping. No highlight reels. Just the real stuff.
🔥 Into the Fire - What's Been Hard
Momentum was built around great amenities. Draft lattes. Cold brew on tap. Pour-over. The works. So when the RO water system ran dry and the kegs went empty first thing in the morning, chaos ensued. Kris breaks down their own version of "Watergate" — and what it revealed about turning a customer frustration moment into surprise and delight.
John gets honest too: the constant tension between deep builder mode and staying on top of customer support is real. Plus — why good AI support bots are genuinely useful, and why bad ones make you want to throw your laptop.
📖 Fan the Flames - Recommendations Worth Your Time
John just finished Alex Hormozi's $100M Money Models and one subtle pricing reframe completely changed how he thinks about annual plans. Instead of offering a discount, give bonus months. Small shift, big psychological difference.
Kris connects it to membership sales at Momentum and brings in Ryan Serhant's obsessive follow-up philosophy: people who don't respond aren't always uninterested. A three-month-cold lead just booked a tour.
Kris's tool pick: Jesse Itzler's wall calendar for mapping out an entire year intentionally, personally and professionally. They used it to plan 75 events without losing their minds.
✨ Embers - Small Wins &amp;amp; Things Shipping
John shipped Ember, a brand new embeddable podcast player for Fireside, and then turned a single customer feature request into a working playlist player in under an hour. The customer's response? "This is unreal."
The lesson: getting something good to production fast beats waiting for perfect. AI-assisted development has changed what's possible for small teams, and John's sticky note says it all "What has to be true for it to take half the time?"
Chris closes with some news: he's been named Outstanding Young Business Leader of the Year by the South Bend Regional Chamber, and yes, he announced it at Christmas dinner to very confused nieces.
Standing in the Fire is about what it actually feels like to own and grow SaaS products. Hosted by John and Kris, owners of Fireside.fm. New episodes dropping consistently, sometimes.
Like what you hear? Subscribe. It helps more than you know. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>What happens when the coffee runs out, and everything else goes sideways too?<br>
Kris and John are back with a new episode format built around three segments: what&#39;s been hard, what&#39;s been inspiring, and what&#39;s been shipping. No highlight reels. Just the real stuff.</p>

<p>🔥 Into the Fire - What&#39;s Been Hard<br>
Momentum was built around great amenities. Draft lattes. Cold brew on tap. Pour-over. The works. So when the RO water system ran dry and the kegs went empty first thing in the morning, chaos ensued. Kris breaks down their own version of &quot;Watergate&quot; — and what it revealed about turning a customer frustration moment into surprise and delight.<br>
John gets honest too: the constant tension between deep builder mode and staying on top of customer support is real. Plus — why good AI support bots are genuinely useful, and why bad ones make you want to throw your laptop.</p>

<p>📖 Fan the Flames - Recommendations Worth Your Time<br>
John just finished Alex Hormozi&#39;s $100M Money Models and one subtle pricing reframe completely changed how he thinks about annual plans. Instead of offering a discount, give bonus months. Small shift, big psychological difference.<br>
Kris connects it to membership sales at Momentum and brings in Ryan Serhant&#39;s obsessive follow-up philosophy: people who don&#39;t respond aren&#39;t always uninterested. A three-month-cold lead just booked a tour.<br>
Kris&#39;s tool pick: Jesse Itzler&#39;s wall calendar for mapping out an entire year intentionally, personally and professionally. They used it to plan 75 events without losing their minds.</p>

<p>✨ Embers - Small Wins &amp; Things Shipping<br>
John shipped Ember, a brand new embeddable podcast player for Fireside, and then turned a single customer feature request into a working playlist player in under an hour. The customer&#39;s response? &quot;This is unreal.&quot;<br>
The lesson: getting something good to production fast beats waiting for perfect. AI-assisted development has changed what&#39;s possible for small teams, and John&#39;s sticky note says it all &quot;What has to be true for it to take half the time?&quot;<br>
Chris closes with some news: he&#39;s been named Outstanding Young Business Leader of the Year by the South Bend Regional Chamber, and yes, he announced it at Christmas dinner to very confused nieces.</p>

<p>Standing in the Fire is about what it actually feels like to own and grow SaaS products. Hosted by John and Kris, owners of Fireside.fm. New episodes dropping consistently, sometimes.<br>
Like what you hear? Subscribe. It helps more than you know.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What happens when the coffee runs out, and everything else goes sideways too?<br>
Kris and John are back with a new episode format built around three segments: what&#39;s been hard, what&#39;s been inspiring, and what&#39;s been shipping. No highlight reels. Just the real stuff.</p>

<p>🔥 Into the Fire - What&#39;s Been Hard<br>
Momentum was built around great amenities. Draft lattes. Cold brew on tap. Pour-over. The works. So when the RO water system ran dry and the kegs went empty first thing in the morning, chaos ensued. Kris breaks down their own version of &quot;Watergate&quot; — and what it revealed about turning a customer frustration moment into surprise and delight.<br>
John gets honest too: the constant tension between deep builder mode and staying on top of customer support is real. Plus — why good AI support bots are genuinely useful, and why bad ones make you want to throw your laptop.</p>

<p>📖 Fan the Flames - Recommendations Worth Your Time<br>
John just finished Alex Hormozi&#39;s $100M Money Models and one subtle pricing reframe completely changed how he thinks about annual plans. Instead of offering a discount, give bonus months. Small shift, big psychological difference.<br>
Kris connects it to membership sales at Momentum and brings in Ryan Serhant&#39;s obsessive follow-up philosophy: people who don&#39;t respond aren&#39;t always uninterested. A three-month-cold lead just booked a tour.<br>
Kris&#39;s tool pick: Jesse Itzler&#39;s wall calendar for mapping out an entire year intentionally, personally and professionally. They used it to plan 75 events without losing their minds.</p>

<p>✨ Embers - Small Wins &amp; Things Shipping<br>
John shipped Ember, a brand new embeddable podcast player for Fireside, and then turned a single customer feature request into a working playlist player in under an hour. The customer&#39;s response? &quot;This is unreal.&quot;<br>
The lesson: getting something good to production fast beats waiting for perfect. AI-assisted development has changed what&#39;s possible for small teams, and John&#39;s sticky note says it all &quot;What has to be true for it to take half the time?&quot;<br>
Chris closes with some news: he&#39;s been named Outstanding Young Business Leader of the Year by the South Bend Regional Chamber, and yes, he announced it at Christmas dinner to very confused nieces.</p>

<p>Standing in the Fire is about what it actually feels like to own and grow SaaS products. Hosted by John and Kris, owners of Fireside.fm. New episodes dropping consistently, sometimes.<br>
Like what you hear? Subscribe. It helps more than you know.</p>]]>
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